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twicky_kid · Aug 22, 2007, 02:15 AM // 02:15

FGJ will double dslash's 5 adrenaline to 10 making it recharge instantly. Trying to figure out a way to abuse the hell out of this while I can.

The problem of course is deep wound. Which is always the problem with sword.

Anyways anyone have some ideas.

Div · Aug 22, 2007, 04:20 AM // 04:20

frenzy-sever-gash-dslash-dslash-dslash-dslash-sever-gash-dslash-dslash

D Fault · Aug 22, 2007, 07:20 AM // 07:20

Zergway.

Have 2 paras take Enduring Harmony so FGJ! lasts 30s.

odly · Aug 22, 2007, 07:53 AM // 07:53

Have a ranger bring spirit of infuriating heat. :-)

Riotgear · Aug 22, 2007, 08:41 AM // 08:41

You'd probably still want to cycle it with Sun and Moon or something. Just spamming Dragon Slash back-to-back = d-shot or diversion bait.

TheOneMephisto · Aug 22, 2007, 11:05 AM // 11:05

Augury of death? Or just screw deep wound and alternate sun and moon and dragon while under conjure or while buffed up by judge's + spirit of strength.

twicky_kid · Aug 22, 2007, 12:46 PM // 12:46

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Originally Posted by Riotgear

You'd probably still want to cycle it with Sun and Moon or something. Just spamming Dragon Slash back-to-back = d-shot or diversion bait.

I did that using conjure. You do over 100 dmg a hit. Now the only problem is when dslash misses.

Infuriating Heat works well also.

Thomas.knbk · Aug 22, 2007, 12:47 PM // 12:47

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Originally Posted by TheOneMephisto

Augury of death? Or just screw deep wound and alternate sun and moon and dragon while under conjure or while buffed up by judge's + spirit of strength.

Conjure+Judge's doesn't work. I have a screenshot of that somewhere. Infurilating Heat+FGJ doesn't work either. I don't have a screenshot of that but you can test it in any area with margonite (or in isle of the nameless with a ranger hero)

I don't like Dragon Slash spam at all. Dragon Slash is pretty weak with so much blocks and blinds flying around, and with FGJ it's going to be even stronger without block and blind flying around than it is now, but just as weak with it. Not to mention it's pretty easy to Dshot. I don't really see how you can abuse this, when the counters are so common. You could abuse it in PvE (I do), but in PvP I don't really see any use for it.

Lorinda · Aug 22, 2007, 01:23 PM // 13:23

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Originally Posted by Thomas.knbk

Conjure+Judge's doesn't work. I have a screenshot of that somewhere. Infurilating Heat+FGJ doesn't work either. I don't have a screenshot of that but you can test it in any area with margonite (or in isle of the nameless with a ranger hero)

Try to read first and then post...

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Originally Posted by TheOneMephisto

Augury of death? Or just screw deep wound and alternate sun and moon and dragon while under conjure or while buffed up by judge's + spirit of strength.

He sad OR..
Also you probable ment the Kourna Rangers. Margonite rangers have Magebane shot

on topic: Just the spam of dragon will be enough most of the time. But to fill your skill bar you can just take the old sever and gash.

Thomas.knbk · Aug 22, 2007, 01:56 PM // 13:56

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Originally Posted by Lorinda

Try to read first and then post...

yeah my bad. Try to be less of a dick.

HolyHawk · Aug 22, 2007, 04:08 PM // 16:08

Perhaps a deep wound is not even necessary, since sun and moon + ds with conjure/strenght of honor can probably take out half the bar alone. Supposing you bring infuriating heat, you could always fit in a paragon, since they have deep wound from a shout and several spear attacks.

Btw, just wondering, infuriating + fgj does not stack. But do any of those stack with a furious sword?

moko · Aug 22, 2007, 04:44 PM // 16:44

FGJ + Enduring Harmony + DSlash + stuff + ....Sbs vs blind!!1

Riotgear · Aug 23, 2007, 01:47 AM // 01:47

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I don't like Dragon Slash spam at all. Dragon Slash is pretty weak with so much blocks and blinds flying around, and with FGJ it's going to be even stronger without block and blind flying around than it is now, but just as weak with it.

Depends. You could pack Enraging Charge as a rebound, since EC+S&MS will instantly charge Dragon Slash under FGJ.

I'm more curious about FGJ being used WITHOUT DS personally. DS gave you 5 strikes of adrenaline and was usable every 5 hits, FGJ gives you roughly the same adrenaline building boost but is steadier (which makes it better with low-cost abilities) and more consistent (no droughts when DS fails to hit).

That said, it doesn't seem like FGJ has any particular bias towards the attack types being used, and I'd be MOST concerned about it on Hammer warriors and thumpers. A constant barrage of KDs seems to have the highest potential for making teams explode, and is probably the best thing to make a gimmick out of. Earth Shaker, Devastating Hammer and Hammer Bash would all take three regular hits to recharge (which also means builds using one of those two elites could probably drop Bash completely if shooting for sheer pressure).

Long KD-locks are possible too:
Frenzy --> DH/ES --> Crushing --> Hit --> Hammer Bash --> Mokele Smash --> Hit --> DH/ES --> Hit --> Hit --> Hammer Bash

Hmm.

twicky_kid · Aug 28, 2007, 01:01 PM // 13:01

FGJ under Dark Fury is absolutely horrifying. You gain 4 adren a hit. I've used it with fear me for some massive spam. Will also allow you to DH or ES ever other hit.

I don't know if boosting FGJ was a good idea.

Thomas.knbk · Aug 28, 2007, 01:33 PM // 13:33

The more I play around with FGJ the more I love it and the more I feel it's totally rediculous. I also think DS is probably the worst build to use it on. Sure, the insta-recharge is a nice gimmick, but it just doesn't work that well in pratice.
What I really liked is the ability to charge evis/exe twice as fast, and a really long knockdown chain on hammer wars. I haven't tried Fear Me but I suppose it's pretty rediculous.

twicky_kid · Aug 28, 2007, 04:48 PM // 16:48

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Originally Posted by Thomas.knbk

The more I play around with FGJ the more I love it and the more I feel it's totally rediculous. I also think DS is probably the worst build to use it on. Sure, the insta-recharge is a nice gimmick, but it just doesn't work that well in pratice.
What I really liked is the ability to charge evis/exe twice as fast, and a really long knockdown chain on hammer wars. I haven't tried Fear Me but I suppose it's pretty rediculous.

Dslash is bad for pvp but the best thing ever for pve.

As for fear me....yes its ridiculous. Made a build with fear me and dark fury for gvg. With 2 wars we were able to completely drain 3-4 people in under 10 seconds. It absolutely punishes ward camping.

Working on a build now that is 2 wars, 1 para, 1 crips shot, 1 mes/n. 1 hit go for the eyes and fear me is going to be really nasty.

nem coke · Aug 28, 2007, 10:57 PM // 22:57

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Originally Posted by Thomas.knbk

I haven't tried Fear Me but I suppose it's pretty rediculous.

My guildies went smurfing with it and owned some hex team in 2~ min, and according to them they also almost won vs dT smurf, but apparently 1 warrior went with random build and e-denial from the other one wasn't enough. Also try Locust's Fury assassin with FGJ and Fear Me.